This is a topic that comes up often on the list, and we
get many questions about it....so after a few requests i wanted to post to the
list about the full boost control system on the Sy/Ty.
Most understand the system, but many of the newbie's don't understand the full
concept at all, or are a bit fuzzy on it.
The Wastegate.
The turbo spins via exhaust gas pressure, exiting the turbo through the exhaust
housing. It spins the exhaust turbine, spinning the compressor wheel, creating a
pressurized environment in the intercooler/intake. The boost level is now
determined by the amount of air moved by the turbo. The turbo's amount of air
moved (not considering turbo efficiencies here) depends on the the rpm of the
turbo, and that is directly related to the amount of exhaust gases/pressure
present in the exhaust housing of the turbo. So, more load/higher RPM, there is
more exhaust gas, leading to more boost.
How is boost controlled?
Exhaust gas pressure needs to be lessened in the exhaust housing. So exhaust
pressure needs be leaked out at a controlled rate, either before the turbo or
directly from the exhaust turbine. In the stock Sy/Ty system we have an integral
wastegate (integral to the turbo, part of the exhaust housing). Many use an
external wastegate, (not part of the turbo), and before the turbo, at a
crossover pipe, or part of the exhaust manifolds.
The integral wastegate has an orifice that directly leaks gas out of the
exhaust turbine. The wastegate puck seals this orifice shut, so no gas can leak
out. Think of it as a door letting exhaust gas out or not letting it out,
depending on its position (from fully closed to fully open) the exhaust exits at
different rates, or not at all. This puck is connected to an arm, that is
visible outside the turbo. Move the lever back and forth, that is the wastegate
opening and closing. No resistance at that part (there shouldn't be). It is
connected to the actuator, and actuator arm. The actuator is a pneumatically
operated device that converts air pressure to a linear motion, using a diaphragm
and spring. The actuator will move the arm fully open at ~10-12psi of pressure.
So with no solenoid in the system, and a boost pressure source connected
directly to the actuator, you will (should) get 10-12psi, as that is when the
wastegate will be opened by the actuator directly.
Why do you get more boost with a different chip/boost controller?
The solenoid is a device that goes between the boost pressure source and the
actuator. This modifies the actual pressure/air that goes in the line to the
actuator. So if you have 13psi, and the solenoid is restricting air to the
actuator, it may not see that full amount of pressure, maybe 10psi. So the
wastegate does not open yet. When it is 15psi boost, the actuator may modify the
source so that the actuator 'sees' 12psi, and now opens. The solenoid does this
by using a duty cycle of a small mechanism (I tore one open the other day, looks
like a small needle valve with spring tension). With varying duty cycles, the
solenoid lets more or less air through, out of the solenoid. On Diacom this will
read as 100% when the wastegate is clammed shut (desiring more boost) and much
less than that (30-70%) when the ECM is commanding the solenoid to let full
boost thru to open the wastegate via the actuator.
With the stock ECM/calibration, and some aftermarket controllers, this is a
closed loop type of operation, meaning it reads the boost via a map sensor, then
adjusts the wastegate duty cycle based on the desired boost level, in order to
increase boost (close wastegate a bit) or decrease boost (open wastegate more).
There is more to come on this subject, including...
Wastegate arm adjustments,
External wastegates,
Aftermarket boost controllers,
Common boost control problems and remedies,
Possibly some diagrams/pictures.
Wastegate Arm Adjustments.
The wastegate arm (or wastegate rod) is the connection from the wastegate
actuator to the wastegate lever itself. The wastegate lever itself is free
moving, swinging freely. If it does not move freely (when disconnected from the
wastegate rod) there is a problem, something impeding movement, and this needs
to be fixed. Some stick intermittently, or only when HOT.
The wastegate actuator is spring loaded, clamping the wastegate closed when
there is no boost source. When pressure is applied to the actuator, the actuator
opens the wastegate. The rod's length can be adjusted, which means that the
wastegate itself will have a different rate of bleeding of the exhaust depending
on the adjustment. Good pictures and diagnostic tests are in the Syclone/Typhoon
Service Supplement (on the CD Rom I believe).
The wastegate rod is connected to the wastegate lever. The lever has a pin, the
rod slips on to it, and a retaining clip through the wastegate lever holds the
arm/lever together. If you pull the pin, and slip the rod off the lever, the
hole on the arm and the lever's pin should overlap slightly. In the manual it
states to look for 1/2 overlap, so you'd have to pull the arm out of the
actuator slightly (tight spring tension here) to connect the arm to the lever's
pin. I believe the overlap spec has been updated so factory specs are now 7/8
overlap (basically a looser/longer rod setup). The arm's length can be adjusted
as the rod end is threaded onto the rod. Tightening the end will shorten the
wastegate, loosening lengthens it. If the rod is shorter, the wastegate is
clamped more tightly shut. If the rod is longer, the wastegate is held loosely
shut. If the rod is shorter, the actuator requires more boost pressure to open
the wastegate the same distance as if it were adjusted longer. Result - more
boost, faster spool up, as the wastegate is not opening quite as much, and not
as quickly. The opposite goes if you lengthen the rod.
If you are using a feedback type of control (3 bar chip/aftermarket high
performance controller) the adjustments won't have the same exact effect as it
would on a non feedback type of control (ANS controller, bleeder valve, stock
chip if you are running more than 15psi, as it cannot feedback control boost
levels it cannot sense). On the non feedback controlled setups, adjusting your
wastegate rod will adjust your boost level, and its response. On a feedback type
of control, adjusting the rod will adjust the response more than the full boost
level reached. It will affect the actual boost level, but it will usually take a
more extreme response to do so, since your control system will take this change
into account (with minor changes that is, but if you tighten TOO much, the
wastegate may not be able to reach full open to bleed off enough pressure, not
to mention what your wastegate can flow period). So you can dial in your
wastegate rod to give you results closer to what you desire, as long as your
system is working up to par. The actuator can also be out of spec, and there are
full diagnostics for making sure it is working as it should.
External Wastegates.
An external wastegate is a wastegate that is designed separate from the turbo
itself. Some externals have been used in designs that mount it near or on the
turbo itself though (Turbonetics has some designs like this, the ATR setup for
Sy/Ty's is this way). Externals typically have a lot more flow capability than
integral wastegates (sometimes you'll see HP ratings for wastegates). Most have
dual port actuators also. This setup uses two ports on the actuator diaphragm in
order to initiate movement of the wastegate's shaft/puck. This can make for a
quick opening wastegate, for better spool up/control.
Many people mount externals on the crossover pipe on syty's (on Buicks as well)
with great results. Kenne Bell headers have a mount for a Richard Lee external
wastegate on their crossover pipe. If you want to use one on a stock type Sy/Ty,
you'll need to custom fabricate a mount for your wastegate. Most external
wastegate kits include a flange for mounting purposes.
If you are making a HIGH HP ( 500+ ) Sy/Ty, an external (or multiple) is the
ONLY way to go. The output of these wastegates can be routed back into the
exhaust, or vented to atmosphere (LOUD!!). If you do vent to atmosphere, you can
put a pipe/muffler on the output to quiet it some. I use an HKS wastegate
mounted on my crossover pipe, with a simple regulator for control. Boost is rock
solid and easily controlled.
Some links:
www.turbonetics.com - See Deltagate/Racegate.
www.hksusa.com - HKS has 2 models of
wastegate also.
Aftermarket Boost Controllers.
In my book, there are 3 different types of aftermarket controllers. The first
being non electronic, basically adjustable bleeder valve/regulator types. These
are no more than hyped up pressure regulators, as used in air compressor
systems, fish aquariums, industrial pressure applications. The hardware is
usually just a knob actuated device with vacuum connections. This design works
fine, as long as you have a wastegate that works GREAT. Otherwise, these are
subject to spikes and boost creep.
Definitions:
Boost spike - when the boost level spools up and shoots past the set limit, then
settles back down.
Boost creep - boost slowly rises over the set boost level.
The main thing here, is that if you think of using one of these, you can pay a
lot less by buying one from a different source (usually $20-50 rather than
$75-150).
I usually think of the last two (electronic controllers) in two different
categories. The simpler one being basic controllers that will put out a simple
duty cycle to your solenoid, or use a different solenoid that just varies duty
cycle on twists of the adjustment knob. These are usually cheaper, and don't
provide for the same performance as the higher end electronic controllers. The
duty cycle remains the same on the solenoid, letting the wastegate start
creeping open. Also, should creep/spikes occur, the controller does nothing to
fight this.
The more complicated electronic controllers (Greddy Profec, HKS EVC, Apex,
Blitz, etc.) use a feedback control setup. They know what the boost level is,
via a map sensor (usually internal), and will adjust their controls based on
what the current level is. When installed correctly with a good performing
wastegate, they provide for solid control with great spool up. The fuzzy logic
ones claim to 'learn' the characteristics of your turbo system, supposedly
making them able to eliminate spikes and creep. These setups are more expensive,
and can be a pain to install and program. From what I've seen, if you have a bad
performing wastegate, one of these setups won't help matters. If your wastegate
is up to spec however, one of these controllers will work fine, and may even
give better performance.